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Why, if one were delusional and easily impressed, one could easily lose a few hundred on their scams!
Yes, I am sure this REALLY happened as described. If it even happened at all (how often does the coast guard run around boarding consumer vessels?!), I am sure said soverign also included his actual government issued ID and license - maybe along with the UCC 1 - and they just ignored the UCC 1.I went sailing from Maui with my friend Captain Tom and 18 people yesterday and we were boarded by the US Coast Guard!
They asked Tom for his "Captain's License", "ID", and "Registration". He handed them a certified copy of his filed and recorded UCC-1 (research UCC redemption process or ask me for help), upon which they simply checked to see that we had enough life vests on board, and bid us good-bye...!
Awesome truth! Gotta love it!!!
I, of course seized the opportunity to "plant a couple of seeds"! I asked if the Coast Guard was a corporation, and one of the officers mentioned that he was already aware that the United States is a corporation. I then asked him if he knew that his name was a corporation and "Credit", and he became curious....
Never a dull moment!
BTW, did you notice that he didn't show his license or State ID? If he did, he'd give them evidence that he's a State subject liable to obey statutes. He showed them the UCC-1, INSTEAD of any ID or license, as an authority and proof of identity.
I have no clue where they were or what they were doing. However, around here, out on the Bay the Coast Guard does board random boats and, since it sounds like they were on a charter, they board charter boats regularly. Being boarded with that many people, and piloting a boat large enough to hold that many people, not having a masters license would get you a guest cruise on a lovely Coast Guard ship and your boat hauled. Of course most of the time if you get boarded it means you were doing something to warrant being looked at. I know of at least 10 people that were caught BWi including one of our State Reps who caused a crash on the water that injured multiple people.LightinDarkness wrote: Yes, I am sure this REALLY happened as described. If it even happened at all (how often does the coast guard run around boarding consumer vessels?!), I am sure said soverign also included his actual government issued ID and license - maybe along with the UCC 1 - and they just ignored the UCC 1.
As always, I am reminded about how important it is for soverign citizens to build a mythology around third hand stories like this. It is there ONLY way to believe that they are doing something which is real, since if they looked at actual court cases like Meads v Meads it would be obvious they are practicing cargo cult law.
Trust me, they take boating seriously. If they didn't things like this would be a lot more common.State Del. Donald H. Dwyer Jr. of Pasadena, who was involved in a powerboat crash last August that injured him and several others, will plead guilty Tuesday in Annapolis District Court to operating a boat while drunk — part of plea deal that his attorney said includes prosecutors not seeking a jail sentence.
I don't know if it is standard procedure but they brought in an at-large judge from Baltimore to sit in Annapolis District to try his case. 30 days in jail for BWI, not causing the collision. IIRC the other captain actually created the incident and is under going his own trial. So to tell me Coast Guard wouldnt care if you didn't have a masters license on you, up to date and, as ND said, your insurance papers, well, I did a flower bed over the weekend for the kids. I used some organic fertilizer there too. Anyway, getting off topic but I thought you all would enjoy that.Saying that "those who made the laws have an obligation to obey them," a District Court judge in Annapolis sentenced state Del. Donald H. Dwyer Jr. on Tuesday to 30 days in jail after he pleaded guilty to operating a boat while under the influence.