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If anyone is interested, I have what I believe to be a fairly current and up to date listing of the handful of fRUSA pretend officers and state pretenders, such few as there are.
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Can you post it here? I'd be interested to see if I recognize any of the names from other fringe/fruitcake websites and calls.
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This came from a recent fRUSA public announcement.
  • James Buchanan Geiger President
    Daniel Mark Owens Vice President
    Jeanine Cherie Stewart Acting Secretary of State
    Brenda Kay Owens Assistant Secretary of State
    Pete Moake Chief Justice Supreme Court

    Nick Krug Arkansas National Senator
    Jim Carpenter Colorado Free-State Lt. Governor
    Gregory Johnson Colorado Secretary of State
    Kevin Saunders Connecticut Free-State Governor
    Michael Bishop Florida Free-State Governor
    Craig Swets Indiana Attorney General
    Roger Waters Indiana District Court Judge
    Ray Marner Indiana Free-State Governor
    Nick Smith Indiana National Senator
    John Eicher Indiana State Chief Justice
    Candace Campbell Iowa National Senator
    Anthony Smith Nebraska Free-State Governor
    Cory Perkins New Jersey Nominee Free-State Governor
    Linda McLaughlin Oklahoma Free-State Governor
    Morse "Mac" Stewart- Oregon Free-State Governor
    Jim Bleakley Washington State Chief Justice
    Cindy Rohan Wisconsin Deputy Treasurer
    Dean Henning Wisconsin Free-State Governor
    David Hertler Wisconsin National Representative
    Connie Schultz Wisconsin Records Keeper
    Jean Hertler Wisconsin Secretary of State
    Michael Brum Wisconsin State Chief Justice
    Mark Rohan Wisconsin State Representative
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Wisconsin has almost a full cabinet, other states should feel jilted.
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Hey -- I'm unemployed, and all of the Massachusetts offices are vacant. The temptation to pad my resume by becoming elected Governor is flickering on the horizon....
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I don't even know what to make of the latest piece of gibberish from RuSA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOxiADs9Xus

Domestic violence...OK, RuSA. I have to admit whatever idiot they are getting to do their media is getting better, this one is not nearly as bad as their other videos. But the message is still gibberish. Also, this thing has been out for 3 days and it has less than 300 views. For context, in the "glory days" of RuSA when they put something out it would have had 10,000 views by now.

Lo, how the Fruitcakes have fallen.
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Considering that they can't even get a pretend quorum for their pretend gov't, not so surprising. They can't even scare up one warm body per state to even make pretense at having actual state representation.
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They're bleating about the Act of 1871 that set up the municipal govt for the District of Columbia, consolidating the villages of Georgetown and Washington into a single city (Washington, DC), etc. This act was replaced only a few years later, in 1873, by another Act that imposed a Congressionally-appointed commission to govern DC, which lasted until Home Rule in 1973.

No violence, nothing unconstitutional, certainly nothing treasonous about it.
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And certainly nothing complicated or earth shattering, if you can only just read English and have the teeniest bit of reading comprehension. Oh, wait, sorry, forgot who I was talking about. :snicker:
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Today (Tuesday, May 20th), fully four days after OAS failed to muster more than 200 people, the RuSA has come out, missed seeing its shadow, and decided to back OAS:
Support Operation American Spring
by: President James Buchanan Geiger


Date: May 20, 2014
Secured ID: PR364424178RUSA

Operation American Spring is a "truly grassroots movement by serious Americans committed to Constitutional Principles, responding to an overreaching, unresponsive and dismissive federal government which is made up of a cabal of elected, but oath-breaking officials, who ignore the Constitution". (http://www.oas2014.com/)

Their mission statement is not unlike the Declaration of Independence whereby our founding fathers wrote, "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinion of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation..." (http://dev.republicoftheunitedstates.or ... iption.pdf)

The Republic for the United States of America is proud to stand in support of Operation American Spring. These men and women are not just converging in Washington D.C. for a day or a weekend, but have committed to remaining on post to see the objectives through. Operation American Spring is and will remain an on-going effort.

To those in the media and especially those who claim to be against tyranny and despotism, who disparage Operation American Spring or discount their efforts based solely on numbers represented at any given time, shame on you! We can only imagine how you would have described the 56 signers to the Declaration of Independence.

A republican form of governance protects the rights of each and every man, woman and child without regard to the majority. That is what sets us apart from a mob-ruled democracy. Each voice is just as important as the next. The importance of the work of Operation American Spring is not about the numbers of people lining the streets; it is about the People standing up against oppression one voice at a time.

Operation American Spring supports and defends the Constitution. We as a constitutional republic can do nothing less than support Operation American Spring. God bless the Republic where the Constitution is the law of the land.
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In the true traditions of fRuSAdum, a day late and a centime short....

Way to go pretend Pressy Geiger!!!!

Next thing you know he'll be announcing that the British are invading Washington.
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Little Jimmy Geiger wrote:Operation American Spring is a "truly grassroots movement......
It's only May, and I'm afraid the grass is already brown and half dead.

:cry:

Maybe the wackadoosters used a little too much manure to try to get the grass to grow.

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Wow, the sovruns never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
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RuSA has doubled down on slow-witted and is scheduling a broadcast (really, a conference call) for Thursday:
RNN Exclusive - Special Live Broadcast Direct from Washington D.C.
Thursday-May 22, 2014

Operation American Spring
top leadership joins Republic News Network this Thursday.

Get real updates and information from the "boots on the ground" and take advantage of live Q&A. Have your questions ready to go.

Forward this message to your assemblies, families, friends and contacts. You don't want to miss this call.

712-432-0075 Access Code 594637#
6pm Pacific/7pm Mountain/8pm Central/9pm Eastern
By Thursday the number of OAS participants still in the DC area should be down to fewer than 50. And most of them will be indistinguishable from other tourists.
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By Thursday, the number of OAS participants still in DC WILL be tourists!
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LaVidaRoja wrote:By Thursday, the number of OAS participants still in DC WILL be tourists!
By Thursday the only OAS participants still in DC will be the ones who took ill and needed hospitalisation or the ones with flat batteries (and no money but that's axiomatic).
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Someone with real Army experience might be able to answer this: Is retired Col. Harry Riley (and any other retired high ranking officers) still answerable to the Army in some way? Can he be reactivated or given orders at this late date, without his own volunteering? Could he somehow be charged with mutiny or at least disrespecting a superior for the OAS stunt (and what could be the punishment)??

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On Wednesday morning (May 21), RuSA sent out this email:
Wednesday Evenings
712-432-0075 Access Code 594637#
6pm Pacific/7pm Mountain
8pm Central/9pm Eastern

The national government has a constitutional duty to guarantee a republican form of governance in the several states. This call is dedicated to assisting the states to do that. Everyone who has an interest in serving is encouraged to attend this call. We will explain the process, answer your questions and help you along the way.

Please download these documents so you will be better informed before the call.

1 Stat 50 - August 7 1789 - Northwest Ordinance ACT
1 Stat 50 Overview
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The references to "1 Stat. 50" are all to the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, published in vol. 1 of US Statutes at Large at page 50, which governed (prior to adoption of the Constitution) the territories acquired from Britain outside the original 13 states - namely what later became Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, & Minnesota. If you live in some other state then the Northwest Ordinance never applied to where you live. And if you live in one of the Northwest Ordinance states, then it never applied to where you lived since before your grandparents, since the US Supreme Court held in Strader v. Graham (Jan. 6, 1851) 51 U.S. (10 How.) 82, 13 L.Ed 337, that the Northwest Ordinance governed those territories only until they each were admitted to the Union as States, at which point the Constitution and federal law displaced the Ordinance as the basic law.
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fortinbras wrote:The references to "1 Stat. 50" are all to the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, published in vol. 1 of US Statutes at Large at page 50, which governed (prior to adoption of the Constitution) the territories acquired from Britain outside the original 13 states - namely what later became Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, & Minnesota. If you live in some other state then the Northwest Ordinance never applied to where you live. And if you live in one of the Northwest Ordinance states, then it never applied to where you lived since before your grandparents, since the US Supreme Court held in Strader v. Graham (Jan. 6, 1851) 51 U.S. (10 How.) 82, 13 L.Ed 337, that the Northwest Ordinance governed those territories only until they each were admitted to the Union as States, at which point the Constitution and federal law displaced the Ordinance as the basic law.
And, even if the Ordinance did apply, it wouldn't have the meaning or effect that they think it has.

Tax deniers have a weird way of misinterpreting and misapplying statutes that no longer exist.

And the more obscure (and inapplicable) the statute, the better, because it makes it less likely that anyone will know what they are talking about, and so less likely that they will be contradicted, disregarded, or ridiculed. (That's our job.)
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fortinbras wrote: The references to "1 Stat. 50" are all to the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, published in vol. 1 of US Statutes at Large at page 50, which governed (prior to adoption of the Constitution) the territories acquired from Britain outside the original 13 states - namely what later became Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, & Minnesota. If you live in some other state then the Northwest Ordinance never applied to where you live. And if you live in one of the Northwest Ordinance states, then it never applied to where you lived since before your grandparents, since the US Supreme Court held in Strader v. Graham (Jan. 6, 1851) 51 U.S. (10 How.) 82, 13 L.Ed 337, that the Northwest Ordinance governed those territories only until they each were admitted to the Union as States, at which point the Constitution and federal law displaced the Ordinance as the basic law.
But Ohio wasn't admitted to the Union until 1953 (so the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified, per tax denier dogma.) It's still not in effect now, but that was after my grandparents' time.
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fortinbras wrote:Someone with real Army experience might be able to answer this: Is retired Col. Harry Riley (and any other retired high ranking officers) still answerable to the Army in some way? Can he be reactivated or given orders at this late date, without his own volunteering? Could he somehow be charged with mutiny or at least disrespecting a superior for the OAS stunt (and what could be the punishment)??
One of the officers on here could answer with more authority for officers but, as a short answer, just about everyone who leaves the service has a period of time where they can be involuntarily recalled during a time of crisis. A critical MOS or someone with great and necessary experience that time period may very well be until you die. When I left it was a period of 6 years. Whether the UCMJ still applies in civilian life, I believe it does under certain circumstances but not sure whether there would be something in all of this crap that would. Now, it is possible to be charged as a civilian under the UCMJ under certain circumstances.

As far as mutiny there is nothing in Article 94 to say that a retired officer can be charged under the UCMJ. In light of it specifically mentioning the word "duty" in several ares makes me believe that they can't.
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