UK - Neelu Berry opens my eyes

[ArthurWankspittle]

She does. She was appointed by the court to represent the estate under CPR 19.8 2 B(ii) because probate hasn't been granted. That's why the judge threw out Eddie when he said he was there as executor / representative.

Whoa! The will appoints EWE as sole executor, so has the court already effectively decided the will is crap and void?
Neelu has an interest as a potential inheritor.

[Wakeman52]

She does. She was appointed by the court to represent the estate under CPR 19.8 2 B(ii) because probate hasn't been granted. That's why the judge threw out Eddie when he said he was there as executor / representative.

Whoa! The will appoints EWE as sole executor, so has the court already effectively decided the will is crap and void?
Neelu has an interest as a potential inheritor.

This may be stating the blindingly obvious, but, just to see if I've got this right....

IIRC the will wasn't probated because EWE reasons. It still could be, I suppose, if someone else could be persuaded to complete the appropriate paperwork correctly, making EWE the executor under its garbled (& it seems to me, impossible to realise) terms. Appointing NB the estate's representative doesn't make her an executor. However, the estate, in whatever state it's in. continues to be liable for the deceased's mortgage debts. These are unpaid, so the repossession process will therefore carry on and render NB homeless. Again. Eventually.

[ArthurWankspittle]

19.8 (2) Where a defendant against whom a claim could have been brought has died and –
(b) a grant of probate or administration has not been made –
(ii) the claimant must apply to the court for an order appointing a person to represent the estate of the deceased in the claim.

So this is saying Neelu is to represent her sister in the repo case?

Going back to the will. I don't know if you throw it all out as garbage, or if you can take the sensible bits and disregard the rubbish. If you do the second option, I suggest EWE is clearly intended to be the sole executor.
As stated above though, the garbage parts of the will are unenforceable.

[rosy]

Neelu says on that video that she told the judge "you're charged with treason and you will be hung [sic] for this", and that he(?) "put that on the tape". Later, when discussing the change of court room, she says that there is no audio in hearing room number three.

Is she admitting to having recorded the proceedings?

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Is she admitting to having recorded the proceedings?

Neelu always records the proceedings and has done for a very long time. It's the source of EWE's "audio proof of fraud obtained" comments.

I have often thought about "tipping off the court" so that she could be done for contempt... but as she has no self control and knows not when to not publish stuff that makes her look a complete idiot. They are often the source of her hilarious transcripts, which I wouldn't want to stop. Published judgements rarely record her stupidity in great detail, However, she posts them!

[aesmith]

Do you remember one of her cases (well her sister's but NB was trying to run the show) where a charging order was granted to the tune of £72K? Something to do with unpaid legal costs. Judgement was in 2015. I wonder if this is the same property, it doesn't seem to be referenced in the extract someone posted on the EWE thread.

THE DISTRICT JUDGE: Have a seat. Yes, so interim order made on 30th October 2014, drawn on 4th November in respect of a judgment debt of then just over £72,000 and you would like to make the order final.
<snip random and pointless Neelu argument>
THE DISTRICT JUDGE: Final charging order and costs of?
MR EMMANUEL: £250.
THE DISTRICT JUDGE: £250, all right. Thank you all very much.

https://icj2.webs.com/arrest

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Do you remember one of her cases...

I believe that was from the dodgy HMO (Homes of Multiple Occupancy) case. Neelu sticking her oar in was where she erroneously got the "slumlord" moniker, but it was actually her sister and brother-in-law.

[aesmith]

I believe that was from the dodgy HMO (Homes of Multiple Occupancy) case. Neelu sticking her oar in was where she erroneously got the "slumlord" moniker, but it was actually her sister and brother-in-law.

It was a civil case, and solely named her late sister as the defendant. Claimant was "KENNETH ELLIOTT & ROWE" who were the solicitors in her road traffic accident vs conditional fee arrangement dispute, which she apparently turned from an offer of £35K to a loss of £72K. Third case here .. https://icj13.webs.com/evidence

But my point is that there was a charging order presumably on property owned by her the sister in 2015. And now there's a possession claim against her sister's estate, and I was wondering if this is the property with that charging order.

[longdog]

It was a civil case, and solely named her late sister as the defendant. Claimant was "KENNETH ELLIOTT & ROWE" who were the solicitors in her road traffic accident vs conditional fee arrangement dispute, which she apparently turned from an offer of £35K to a loss of £72K. Third case here .. https://icj13.webs.com/evidence

Am I reading that right? She lost over £100,000 through stupidity and greed?

Reading between the lines it looks like she was offered £35k for an exaggerated, if not downright fraudulent (can't libel the dead eh?) insurance claim, was told by her conditional fee lawyers to accept it, got greedy and went to another solicitor without a CFA, lost and was on the hook not only for her own legal costs but the costs of the defending party.

[longdog]

I hesitate to ascribe normal thought processes to The Princess but she's racked up to the RCJ to try, and fail, to get an emergency stay on the pending eviction. It could be more legal grandstanding or there's the possibility that she's had a lucid moment, realised she's flushed another house down the bog and is looking homelessness in the face.



Blah, blah whistleblowers, blah, blah dead babies, blah, blah satanists etc.

[Pottapaug1938]

Not only that -- she is oblivious to the fact that the ambient noise makes it very difficult to understand what she is saying. Let us now bow our heads in fervent thanks.

[aesmith]

This video has more detail from Neelu's transcript, including the DJ's reaction to EWE's document and some more EWE ramblings and interaction with security during the Chair Removal Fraud ...

[John Uskglass]

At about 13:58 in that video Neelu gives commentary regarding the judge's comment that the document EWE has submitted 'is gibberish, it doesn't add up to a lid of beans'.

While 'lid of beans' looks like a transcription error or a misspeak, Neelu seems to grasp what's meant in a literal sense, but
it appears that she may genuinely not understand that the description is a figure of speech. As a Common Law Psychiatrist, I have a vague memory that being unable to process such phrases is an indication of certain types of disordered thought processes, though in the best FMOTL tradition, I cant actually quote an authority for this.

[longdog]

As a fellow common law psychiatrist I agree with you. It can certainly be a part of the disordered thinking in schizophrenia but then it can also be a part of autism, dementia, stroke and, of course, not being very good at Englishing amongst other things.

One of the great unanswered questions is the exact nature of The Princess's malfunction. There's certainly at least one screw loose but I have no idea which specific ones.

[John Uskglass]

I cant actually quote an authority for this.

Ah, I must have been thinking of the Benjamin Proverbs Test, which I came across in Philip K Dick's 'We Can Build You'.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_uI ... st&f=false

Over the years I've met a couple of people who struggled with unfamiliar proverbs and were, as we CLP's say, a bit bonkers.

[Pottapaug1938]

As a fellow common law psychiatrist I agree with you. It can certainly be a part of the disordered thinking in schizophrenia but then it can also be a part of autism, dementia, stroke and, of course, not being very good at Englishing amongst other things.

It could also be a sign, plain and simple, that Neelu's lights are on, but ain't nobody home.

[longdog]

It could also be a sign, plain and simple that Neelu's lights are on, but ain't nobody home.

Evidently. But that's not a very satisfying diagnosis for us Common Law Psychiatrists.

[longdog]

Over the years I've met a couple of people who struggled with unfamiliar proverbs and were, as we CLP's say, a bit bonkers.

To be honest I had a THC induced revelation on Friday night. It was an expression that was used in whatever film I was watching and it was the first time I realised it meant to do something pointless and futile. It's quite a common expression but, probably due to the fact I didn't 'get it', one I never use and hence have forgotten again.

Even as I cling to the last not-very-credible belief that I'm still only middle-aged I have at least weekly examples of realising something that is bleedin' obvious to everybody else.

[John Uskglass]

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[Pottapaug1938]

It could also be a sign, plain and simple that Neelu's lights are on, but ain't nobody home.

Evidently. But that's not a very satisfying diagnosis for us Common Law Psychiatrists.

I'm just as qualified as you are to be a Common Law Psychiatrist! I've watched several YouTube videos, and have Googled articles on psychiatry.