Ed and Elaine full colon Brown

[ErsatzAnatchist]

just a question.
I'm curious to know whom I should speak to about getting wheelchair accessible restrooms for the prison yard at El Reno? Currently those that are wheelchair confined can not go outside because there is no facilities for them. Should I contact the Veteran Affairs and see if they can help?

Have you contacted the Bureau of Prisons to ask them to correct this problem or to provide a reasonable accommodation for wheelchair bound prisoners?

I do not know if the American's With Disabilities Act applies to the Federal Government (although I doubt it), but there may be some sort of internal regulation that require accommodation for the disabled.

Whenever dealing with a bureaucracy, you should communicate in writing. I also recommend that if you cannot find the department directly responsible, send your letter directly to the director of the agency. It will get routed down to the right person. Also, the higher up the hill it starts, the faster it is moving when it gets down to the place it should be.

[VanMeters Revenge]

just a question.
I'm curious to know whom I should speak to about getting wheelchair accessible restrooms for the prison yard at El Reno? Currently those that are wheelchair confined can not go outside because there is no facilities for them. Should I contact the Veteran Affairs and see if they can help?

Have you contacted the Bureau of Prisons to ask them to correct this problem or to provide a reasonable accommodation for wheelchair bound prisoners?

I do not know if the American's With Disabilities Act applies to the Federal Government (although I doubt it), but there may be some sort of internal regulation that require accommodation for the disabled.

Whenever dealing with a bureaucracy, you should communicate in writing. I also recommend that if you cannot find the department directly responsible, send your letter directly to the director of the agency. It will get routed down to the right person. Also, the higher up the hill it starts, the faster it is moving when it gets down to the place it should be.

Thank you very much, your help is greatly appreciated.

[wserra]

Yes, Ive called you all squatloos, put your big girl panties on one leg at a time that way you don't get em all up in a bunch.

Believe it or not, it's actually something more than simply your puerile name-calling.

You actively contributed to someone about whom you profess to care donating at least twice as much of his life to BOP as was necessary. Had you listened to what was posted here, and had you had sufficient influence over Gonzalez to convince him to comply, he would likely be doing half the sentence he is doing now. And he will not be out "soon". He will do his sentence, less 53 days/year good time, and be out on supervised release.

But your work is not yet done. You can egg him into doing some more stupid sh*t while he is still incarcerated (so that he can lose good time), or once he gets out (so that the court can violate his supervised release and send him back). Still plenty of opportunities to be a "Good Samaritan".

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mud and fecal matter has been flung in my direction from your [sic] all

All justified, considering your general level of idiocy.

Seeing how most of you work for the system, in one way or another

You obviously haven't read the numerous previous threads which have detailed just how few here "work for the system."

I've never worked "for the system" in any capacity, nor have most here. Most of the CPAs and lawyers here work for private clients against "the system."

Sometimes, they actually mount successful arguments against "the system," none of which include anything remotely related to the moronic junk advocated by TPs and their sycophants such as yourself.

Yes, there are a few actual IRS employees here. They spend most of their time trying to explain why people like you should come to their senses.

I agree with them, not for philosophical purposes but for practical purposes. They're right and you and your idiot TP buddies are wrong, and the courts will uphold them every single time.

Hopefully at some point you'll realize that the TP Kool-Aid is poison.

[Judge Roy Bean]

just a question.
I'm curious to know whom I should speak to about getting wheelchair accessible restrooms for the prison yard at El Reno? Currently those that are wheelchair confined can not go outside because there is no facilities for them. Should I contact the Veteran Affairs and see if they can help?

Start here: http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/split/cripa.php

My understanding is that while the ADA doesn't specifically apply to Government Agencies, it does apply to the Bureau of Prisons as well as state facilities as a result of a Supreme Court decision.

[Demosthenes]

just a question.
I'm curious to know whom I should speak to about getting wheelchair accessible restrooms for the prison yard at El Reno? Currently those that are wheelchair confined can not go outside because there is no facilities for them. Should I contact the Veteran Affairs and see if they can help?

Start here:

http://www.aclu.org/images/asset_upload ... _25737.pdf

[fortinbras]

I think VanMeter raised a valid question about a serious matter. Admittedly it was very unexpected and unfamiliar to Qautlooz but that's no reason to ridicule him.

[Demosthenes]

I think VanMeter raised a valid question about a serious matter. Admittedly it was very unexpected and unfamiliar to Qautlooz but that's no reason to ridicule him.

VanMeter is a she. She's Reno's girlfriend.

[Dezcad]

I guess the Colonheads didn't get the message from the recent order on 04/03/2009.

04/06/2009 52 NOTICE of Acceptance for Value, et al. of Notice of Electronic Filing of Transcript #50 by Edward Brown, Elaine Brown. (dae) (Entered: 04/06/2009)

04/07/2009 ENDORSED ORDER as to Edward Brown, Elaine Brown re: 52 Notice of Acceptance for Value, et al. of Notice of Electronic Filing of Transcript #50. Text of Order: No action needed. Frivolous filing. So Ordered by Judge George Z. Singal. (dae) (Entered: 04/07/2009)

[Demosthenes]

Do not be surprised if some state and/or the Federal prison system establishes a geriatics only prison in the not too distant future.

The BOP is in the process of sending some elderly prisoners into home confinement as a pilot program. Ed and Elaine won't qualify.

http://www.famm.org/Repository/Files/El ... 9FINAL.pdf

[grixit]

You could also try going to the media. But refer them to a specific situation at a specific facility. Better still, find a specific prisoner who is hindered by the situation.

[Demosthenes]

Seeing how most of you work for the system, in one way or another, I would figure one of you would know.

The ironic part is that Donna didn't think to ask her fellow Brown supporter, active NHFree participant "KBCraig." Despite hailing himself as anti-government, anto-police state, Kevin Craig works for the Texarkana Federal Correction Institute, Dick Simkanin's home. Unlike anyone here, while posting 9,700 messages on the freestate forum, he's been cashing check after check after check from the BOP.

[Gregg]

Seeing how most of you work for the system, in one way or another, I would figure one of you would know.

The ironic part is that Donna didn't think to ask her fellow Brown supporter, active NHFree participant "KBCraig." Despite hailing himself as anti-government, anto-police state, Kevin Craig works for the Texarkana Federal Correction Institute, Dick Simkanin's home. Unlike anyone here, while posting 9,700 messages on the freestate forum, he's been cashing check after check after check from the BOP.

Maybe he's doing undercover work to expose "the man" and of course, he donates the dirty money they pay him to "patriot charities"

It could happen!

[Judge Roy Bean]

Seeing how most of you work for the system, in one way or another, I would figure one of you would know.

The ironic part is that Donna didn't think to ask her fellow Brown supporter, active NHFree participant "KBCraig." Despite hailing himself as anti-government, anto-police state, Kevin Craig works for the Texarkana Federal Correction Institute, Dick Simkanin's home. Unlike anyone here, while posting 9,700 messages on the freestate forum, he's been cashing check after check after check from the BOP.

Demo - local law enforcement is a target-rich environment for anti-Federal sentiments. You should spend some time with those ELECTED to law enforcement positions in flyover country before your book goes to press.

[Doktor Avalanche]

Maybe he's doing undercover work to expose "the man" and of course, he donates the dirty money they pay him to "patriot charities"

It could happen!

And I have this lovely bridge to sell you, real cheap.

[Demosthenes]

Demo - local law enforcement is a target-rich environment for anti-Federal sentiments. You should spend some time with those ELECTED to law enforcement positions in flyover country before your book goes to press.

I'm aware of the law enforcement issue.

I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Donna coming here (and making snotty comments complete with the erroneous assumption that we're all feds) rather than asking the actual federal prison guard posting on the Ed Brown thread on NHfree.com.

[Gregg]

Maybe he's doing undercover work to expose "the man" and of course, he donates the dirty money they pay him to "patriot charities"

It could happen!

And I have this lovely bridge to sell you, real cheap.

Oh man, that looks like a really cool bridge, but I just bought one in Brooklyn!

[ElfNinosMom]

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documents is a known corporation under PAINE WEBBER GROUP of international
businessmen, and not the United States of America, the land, the country, we are not
able to participate in this extreme fraud;

All right, who told them? That was supposed to be kept secret.

I made that mistake, by creating an entire blog around the only known candidate for President of the United States of America, Incorporated.

http://chapmanforpresident.blogspot.com

[ElfNinosMom]

By the way, Al Bundy eventually won the presidential poll on my Gene blog. Gene was also defeated by (in order) Homer Simpson, Morvo the Devourer, Eric Cartman, and A Case of Budweiser. Every single one of those candidates received over twice as many votes as Gene.

Gene tied for 6th place along with Jabba The Hut and Rusty Shackelford.

[ElfNinosMom]

My interest in this is so I can help some veterans. I'm in no way going to benefit personally from your decision to offer aid or not, it is for those in the prison population that are veterans of our military and others that are have physical limitations. But if you want to be an ass hat to those that had served, and sacrificed for this country, you have every right to be so, and I shall continue to being a good Samaritan.

Yes, Ive called you all squatloos, put your big girl panties on one leg at a time that way you don't get em all up in a bunch.

I'm not crying about the countless times mud and fecal matter has been flung in my direction from your all. Seeing how most of you work for the system, in one way or another, I would figure one of you would know. I am asking everyone on all the forums, so don't get that special warm fuzzy feeling all inside quite yet that ya think I am warming up to you all. Since the VA is over burden, I was unsure if there were somewhere else that one can turn too, to get these guys the help they need.

We disagree on almost everything, obviously, but in this case I commend you for wanting to help.

I will however note that I do NOT "work for the system, in one way or another". Any help I give "the system" is done to protect the innocent, not to help the system. For example, I helped police identify and arrest a dangerous pedophile a few weeks ago, after he commented on my blog that pedophilia is merely a sexual orientation, and that it is completely acceptable for pedophiles to kidnap, rape, and murder a child because it makes the pedophiles "happy".

That wasn't done to help the "the system", and in fact helping "the system" was the furthest thing from my mind. It was done to protect innocent young children from a quickly escalating pedophile who, in the space of only one month, had progressed from seeking child pornography, to seeking graphic child pornography, to seeking IM addresses of young boys with webcams, to saying it's okay for pedophiles to gang together and kidnap, rape and murder an innocent little six-year-old boy.

If that's "working for the system" in your opinion, then so be it. At least I can sleep at night, knowing I did my part to get that monster off the streets. Could you turn your back on that situation, and not help the police identify him before he raped and murdered a child? I should certainly hope not.

That being said, the VA cannot help with wheelchair-accessible ramps for prisoners, veterans or not. You would have to go through the Bureau of Prisons for anything pertaining to prison infrastructure.

In the end, a wheelchair-bound prisoner may have to sue in order to get it done, but I agree that it should be done.

Hope that helps.