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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus

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rumpelstilzchen wrote:
arayder wrote:
Pigpot, perhaps you can find an adult to read the threads to you and go over your posts before you put them up?

An elderly aunt? A kindly neighbor?
Surely pigpot must be having us on? He must be feigning ignorance? Even pigpot can't be that stupid to not know that Dean's trial has been and gone and Dean lost. Or maybe he can?

Dean is laboring under the illusion that the courts will at the last minute lose jurisdiction and that simultaneously he will be able to bring a suit against. . .well, everybody. . .and subsequently collect his fees.

And freemen talk about make believe law. This is the biggest fairy tale I've heard since folks talked about Alaska getting an ABA team.

I don't how it works in Canada. I suspect it isn't that different from any other western democracy in that the convicted one has to appeal the conviction to get it overturned and there has to be some grounds for the appeal before the perp is granted a hearing.

One can't just jump up at sentencing, unilaterally declare the court to be without jurisdiction and then pretend you're about to win a civil suit against the government.

I suppose it's possible Pigpot is so mistaken as to believe that this kind of magical win is possible.

. . . .and now starting at center for your Alaska Pipeliners. . .
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus

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arayder wrote: I don't how it works in Canada. I suspect it isn't that different from any other western democracy in that the convicted one has to appeal the conviction to get it overturned and there has to be some grounds for the appeal before the perp is granted a hearing.
One can't just jump up at sentencing, unilaterally declare the court to be without jurisdiction and then pretend you're about to win a civil suit against the government.
Here's a short summary for the Canadian system, with minor differences between provinces. After conviction but before sentencing, the convicted person files a notice of appeal to the Crown. If the Crown and the Courts determine that the grounds for appeal have merit and are not frivolous, in Dean's case bail conditions may be modified but he stays out of the crowbar hotel until his appeal grinds through the system. If the person is not on bail like Dean is, generally a valid cause for appeal of a conviction is sufficient grounds to ask for release from custody on bail until the appeal is heard.
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Well Piggy and the Deano might, but that is about it. They call that behavior losing touch with reality, Deano is getting progressively worse as his fantasy world implodes, and Piggy never even managed it.
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I suppose if anything this is what I'm into in the main. Not getting arrested in the first place. So when the "5-0" or filth come around someones house the individual gets to move the naughty :naughty: men and women in fancy dress from their property. Badges and all... GONE! :shock: 8) :lol: :haha:

This kind of thing below:
You Won't Believe How FAST I Made These Cops Leave!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUcjuV2Aca4
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pigpot wrote:I suppose if anything this is what I'm into in the main. Not getting arrested in the first place. So when the "5-0" or filth come around someones house the individual gets to move the naughty :naughty: men and women in fancy dress from their property. Badges and all... GONE! :shock: 8) :lol: :haha:

This kind of thing below:
You Won't Believe How FAST I Made These Cops Leave!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUcjuV2Aca4
Great video, he should be a lawyer.
I like the description too, where he has written to the cops to tell them that he and his friends will be travelling in cars without tags, that is a real blow for freedom. You are really wrestling back your rights over there, please include more videos, very informative. Thank you.
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Re: pigpot's Pot

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hardcopy wrote:
pigpot wrote:I suppose if anything this is what I'm into in the main. Not getting arrested in the first place. So when the "5-0" or filth come around someones house the individual gets to move the naughty :naughty: men and women in fancy dress from their property. Badges and all... GONE! :shock: 8) :lol: :haha:

This kind of thing below:
You Won't Believe How FAST I Made These Cops Leave!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUcjuV2Aca4
Great video, he should be a lawyer.
I like the description too, where he has written to the cops to tell them that he and his friends will be travelling in cars without tags, that is a real blow for freedom. You are really wrestling back your rights over there, please include more videos, very informative. Thank you.
So regardless of what you say; What actually happened? Did the cops (filth) walk away, YES. Was that an immediate win, YES.

Same as in a "Court". Any case dismissed for "xyz" doesn't matter as long as it's dismissed. It's the "States" ("Judges") "Court", we know that and we know that in your house you make the rules so in your house you make your rules so we can also ignore your decision as well as it may very well carry prejudice.

That's what's going on. "They" are dismissing cases without showing the "real" reasons for doing so BECAUSE "they" know "they" have no "real" reasons for dismissing the case other than there was no case to answer in the first place.

No corpus delecti, no body of evidence, no harm, no etc, so "they" dismiss for "xyz". Don't ask me for proof about this... the proof is in "their" dismissal. "They" have NONE.
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

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Dai Kiwi wrote:
pigpot wrote: Anyway back to the thread. I could share a drink with "Wes" and "Burnaby49". I would interest them I think... I would be interesting them in me. No grammar police please. I may start using my own words and create new meanings from them. Like.... a donkey would be an orange and a car would become gravy... Hell I was beaten to it by you legal eagles... you created legalese. Sorry....... my error. :? :lol:
I think you overestimate your interestingness.
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they're the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
This below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9hhzkPAAvM

I'd like to spend some time in "Keene" (although I understand this IS NOT "Keene" but I'd still like to get involved with the "Shire"): This sounds like a great laugh. :)
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Re: pigpot's Pot

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pigpot wrote:
So regardless of what you say; What actually happened? Did the cops (filth) walk away, YES. Was that an immediate win, YES.
Is this an immediate win too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIbq8kp6bLY

Or does the fact they lost 1-7 make the 1 part of a defeat rather than a victory?

The police clearly weren't going to waste time with an idiot, so they left to do something else with the intention of coming back when the idiot had gone.

It's standard procedure, the guy didn't "win", he just made a fool of himself in a way that reduces his standings in future incidents. That, returning to the football analogy is an own goal.

Is that it?

Your political philosophy is to get excited watching people make fools of themselves on YouTube?

No wonder you struggle...
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

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The thing is you "guys" like the idea that what IS now Is "Law" and "Order" but "It's" not... "It's" "bullsh1t". "It's" a criminal class trying "their" hardest to control a bunch of people that would destroy this idea of "rule" in seconds. "It's" coming people... and "It's" not too far away. I won't say thankfully as I am unaware of the outcome though it will be a different one from this. "B.O." can try and ban all the weapons he wants but the fact of the matter is "they" will exist outside of him or it.

Just saying. That's all. Matter of fact. :|
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Re: pigpot's Pot

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NG3 wrote:
pigpot wrote:
So regardless of what you say; What actually happened? Did the cops (filth) walk away, YES. Was that an immediate win, YES.
Is this an immediate win too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIbq8kp6bLY

Or does the fact they lost 1-7 make the 1 part of a defeat rather than a victory?

The police clearly weren't going to waste time with an idiot, so they left to do something else with the intention of coming back when the idiot had gone.

It's standard procedure, the guy didn't "win", he just made a fool of himself in a way that reduces his standings in future incidents. That, returning to the football analogy is an own goal.

Is that it?

Your political philosophy is to get excited watching people make fools of themselves on YouTube?

No wonder you struggle...
"NG3" You're not that clever eh! Have you watched this one when the "filth" get "served". Naughty boys! Get what they deserved in some peoples opinion. What do you think? Likely lads eh!

That's what it's coming to. Choose the side wisely. Choose the side wisely mate! :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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Re: pigpot's Pot

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pigpot wrote:

"NG3" You're not that clever eh!
That's not for me to say, but at least I knew it was standard procedure & not a "win".

As for the rest, I'm not into childish fantasies so ignored it
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Well, well it seems our boy has some sort of oppositional defiant disorder which he expresses through "freemanism".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APGgynU8IsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFbzhUsBE

I suspect his involvement with the police in his home town has run its course and we here are now to be blessed with his bile.
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NG3 wrote:
pigpot wrote:

"NG3" You're not that clever eh!
That's not for me to say, but at least I knew it was standard procedure & not a "win".

As for the rest, I'm not into childish fantasies so ignored it
Come the crap... Do you believe that standard procedure will apply. Do you think someone will ask you about conventional law, legality, Police etc. No rhetorical questions... etc............ Honestly. So therefore WHILE the "Law" "thinks" it's the law... get rid of it... Why........... Because it's NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
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arayder wrote:Well, well it seems our boy has some sort of oppositional defiant disorder which he expresses through "freemanism".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APGgynU8IsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFbzhUsBE

I suspect his involvement with the police in his home town has run its course and we here are now to be blessed with his bile.
Quite "arayder",

"Your boy" I'm not. I'm now going to say nothing in my "home town".
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"Come the crap."

"Choose the side wisely."

I believe our subject has an active fantasy life regarding a revolution after which he will pay back all the cops and judges for the laws they have enforced upon him.

I suspect there is a old teacher or coach in the fantasy too.
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pigpot wrote:
Come the crap... Do you believe that standard procedure will apply. Do you think someone will ask you about conventional law, legality, Police etc. No rhetorical questions... etc............ Honestly. So therefore WHILE the "Law" "thinks" it's the law... get rid of it... Why........... Because it's NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
Is that even meant to make sense?

You live in a fantasy land.

Choose my side carefully?

You've chosen so badly that if the promised day of reckoning ever happened, and despite the claims "its coming" having out lasted those who first said it, despite me being English, and living in England, I could still count on more people in your country than you could.

When are you going to grow out of these childish fantasies and living vicariously through out of context strangers actions in YouTube videos?

I had a friend like you when I was about 10. He used to watch Bruce Lee films and react to them like you do to YouTube videos.

Fortunately he grew out of it and joined the real world.
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Quite. . .
I have not given you permission to address me.
. . ."arayder",. . .
I have not given you permission to address me.
. . ."Your boy". . .
I have not given you permission to address me.
. . .I'm not. . .


I have not given you permission to address me.
. . .I'm now going to say. . .
I have not given you permission to address me.
. . .nothing in my "home town". . .
I have not given you permission to address me.
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

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Of course, IF what you say will happens, happens, and the current system of Law is replaced with a new system of Law, you'll still find something to complain about.
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NG3 wrote: When are you going to grow out of these childish fantasies and living vicariously through out of context strangers actions in YouTube videos?

I had a friend like you when I was about 10. He used to watch Bruce Lee films and react to them like you do to YouTube videos.

Fortunately he grew out of it and joined the real world.
It would seem our subject was charged with drunk driving and attempted to use the endless freeman chatter strategy to beat the rap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFbzhUsBE

The irony of a drunk driver telling the judge she is in dishonor would be laughable were the act not so loathsome.
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arayder wrote: It would seem our subject was charged with drunk driving and attempted to use the endless freeman chatter strategy to beat the rap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFbzhUsBE

The irony of a drunk driver telling the judge she is in dishonor would be laughable were the act not so loathsome.
That's another of my old stomping grounds from when I lived in BC. As with a lot of people from BC I used to drop down over the border a lot and had a girl in Seaside, which is in Clatsop county, Oregon, as well as friends in Astoria.

I'll have to ask them about all this and get the facts from the non-YouTube perspective.